11 comments

  • mhd 55 minutes ago
    Any reason why they didn't get their own "meat name" then? I thought that the "cow/beef"-"pig/pork" split was due do that, with the initially Norman nobles consuming most of that luxury meat. Thus nothing for "chicken", either. Did "lapin" or something like that get lost?
    • card_zero 31 minutes ago
      Yes, cony: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cony#English

      See also the note at rabbit: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rabbit#English apparently rabbits themselves are all French. "hare is indeed inherited from Proto-Germanic."

    • larodi 33 minutes ago
      Chicken/poultry?
    • ThrustVectoring 26 minutes ago
      The introduction of rabbits to England post-dates the Norman conquest.
      • ithkuil 15 minutes ago
        And the word rabbit comes there from french rabotte which however comes in turn from a Germanic language (dutch) so it doesn't feel quite french.
      • pdw 20 minutes ago
        Right, commoners would initially only have known them as exotic burrowing hares.
  • wood_spirit 45 minutes ago
    QI s05e03 “Eating” talked about how Hudson Bay trappers were so fond of eating rabbit that they died! Rabbit is so delicious that they didn’t eat a balanced diet and suffered - fatally - from lack of vitamins etc!!
    • tybit 39 minutes ago
      I was surprised to learn that this has a name (or a few)

      > Rabbit starvation (also called protein poisoning or mal de caribou)

      The body can only digest so much protein and rabbits are so lean there is basically no fat to them outside their organs.

  • rustyhancock 55 minutes ago
    It's says Rabbit was 4-5 times the price of chicken.

    That seems a reasonable estimate to me even today.

    • fooker 25 minutes ago
      I have lived in many cities across three countries, and the price of chicken has always been a good proxy for the cost of living. And maintains the same ratio to the price of a bus ticket (and similar things).

      Does this phenomenon have a name?

    • handwoven 31 minutes ago
      Rabbit is comparatively cheap to produce, and available at low price wherever it is produced in larger quantities. Apparently no significant economies of scale where you live.
  • shoobiedoo 1 hour ago
    I've only eaten rabbit once and it was bathed in garlic butter so I don't really remember it. Besides the "tastes like chicken hehe" stereotype, is there any knock-your-socks-off dish made with rabbit where it's center stage?
    • masklinn 1 hour ago
      Rabbit is a pretty important part of traditional Maltese cuisine, rabbit stew is often considered a national dish, fried rabbit is also fairly common.

      First time I heard of rabbit being considered to taste like chicken, they taste nothing alike.

      • vidarh 12 minutes ago
        > First time I heard of rabbit being considered to taste like chicken, they taste nothing alike.

        They don't. It's just a reference to the standing joke that any meat that is unfamiliar "tastes like chicken" as a generic way of describing meat taste.

    • telotortium 1 hour ago
      Paella is commonly made with rabbit in Spain.
      • Al-Khwarizmi 37 minutes ago
        Yes. In fact, the famous ultra-orthodox traditional paella that Valencians stick to has rabbit. But many other variants do as well. In my family we often eat a simpler version from Murcia with no chicken, but more rabbit, called just "rice with rabbit", and IMHO it's even better (https://okdiario.com/recetas/arroz-conejo-murcia-2538513). The best rice you can have without seafood in it :) And I've always liked fishing for the rabbit's liver.

        At one of my ancestral villages in Galicia, rabbit empanada is also a thing, and tastes amazing. But it's seen less and less often because it's messy to eat (it's cooked with bones so you have to open the empanada, remove the bones and close it again) so people tend to use fillings without that problem now. (You can cook it without the bones, there are also areas where they do that, but in that specific area they shun that variant).

      • felipeerias 1 hour ago
        Rabbits are mainly native to the Iberian Peninsula.
        • masklinn 1 hour ago
          The european rabbit (and the domesticated rabbit, which descends from it) is native to the Iberian peninsula. There are ~20 extant species called rabbits all over the world (most though not all leporids outside of Lepus, the true hares).
        • cowl 1 hour ago
          well they are native almost everywhere but according to legend it was named i-spn-ya (Land of the Rabbits) by the Phoenician although some suggest that SPN could also have meant North instead of rabbits so land of the north.
        • telesilla 1 hour ago
          If I recall, the word 'España' or 'Hispania' refers to an old word for 'hyrax', for which rabbit were mistaken for. Could be apocraphyl but it's a nice idea.
        • setopt 1 hour ago
          Within Europe, you mean? A quick Google suggest there were native rabbits also in the Americas, Asia, and Africa.
    • trklausss 57 minutes ago
      It's quite common in Spain, in my family we eat that ~6 times a year. Honestly delicious, but I understand why people won't eat it.
    • a96 49 minutes ago
      Hare is pretty common game here in Finland and I think I must have eaten that fairly regularly when I was little but I have absolutely no recollection what it actually tasted like.

      Only recipe I've seen was indeed a stew where the ingredients were almost "one rabbit, unholy amounts of garlic".

    • b800h 58 minutes ago
      Hmm. It's made me think about Lièvre à la Royale (Hare à la Royale), but of course Hares are not rabbits (they taste gamier).

      The guys from Fallow made a video on YouTube about attempting to make a really good one.

      Apparently Lapin à la Moutarde is the classic rabbit dish.

    • xfq 1 hour ago
      I like Sichuan's Zigong 冷吃兔 (cold-eaten rabbit)! Fried rabbit, dried chillies and numbing Sichuan pepper. Unforgettable.
    • aappleby 1 hour ago
      Confit or cassoulet.
    • shaolinspirit 1 hour ago
      rabbit stew
  • delis-thumbs-7e 53 minutes ago
    The title buries the lead: rabbits executing hunters in the Smithfield Decretal illustrations. Seems British humour has a tradition at least to the 14th Century.
    • Terr_ 19 minutes ago
      *lede, since we are already in academic language-and-culture details territory.

      https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/bury-the-lede-versu...

      • wongarsu 0 minutes ago
        Though lede is just a variation of the word lead to get a unique word for the leading section of an article. As long as we all agree that it's pronounced like in leading and not like the metal the difference in spelling doesn't feel significant
    • dingdongditchme 26 minutes ago
      How is that an example of burying the lead? (I presume lede is the correct spelling, but burying lead for others to find in their drinking water amuses me.)

      EDIT: saw the picture and yes. That certainly was catchy, but I the hn title is missing the subtitle: "until the black death made them commonplace".

      • card_zero 19 minutes ago
        More of a venison issue. Lede evolved from lead to avoid exactly this confusion, sometime last century.
  • hizlikovboy27 1 hour ago
    From Turkey, as far as I can tell, rabbit doesn’t show up much on menus so it seems to vary a lot by region. But if you have a recipe to recommend, I’d love to try it :)
    • tstrimple 47 minutes ago
      Recently stumbled across this cooking video featuring chefs trying to recreate Michelin recipes. Lièvre à la Royale (Royal Hare).

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJtdtekV7xo

      Let's just say it didn't make me want to try rabbit any time soon.

  • someperson 1 hour ago
    Rabbits were a common staple food source in Australia until 1950s when the myxoma virus was released which causes the disease myxomatosis.
    • NL807 30 minutes ago
      Rabbits were a depression-era food for Australians and was always considered a poor people's food. Being a pest does give make it popular either, much the same as carp is. Which is a shame, as both make great sources of cheap food.
    • lmpdev 1 hour ago
      Also our most successful rugby league team’s name was given as a derogatory put down: “Rabbitoh”, which was seen as a poor sales person flogging rabbit meat for money

      South Sydney being a poor area, yielded the South Sydney Rabbitohs

    • ButlerianJihad 1 hour ago
      Since their introduction for a spot of recreational hunting, European rabbits have had a devastating effect on the ecology of Australia in general. Hence the Rabbit-Proof Fence, and its corresponding novel and film.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbits_in_Australia

      • defrost 7 minutes ago
        > Hence the Rabbit-Proof Fence, and its corresponding novel and film.

        You do realise, one hopes, the film has FA to do with either rabbits or any rabbit related ecological devastation.

        The fence served as a navigational aid for a long journey home, had it not existed Daisy, Molly, and Gracie would have had to fall back on the Seven Sisters for directions.

  • throwfaraway135 1 hour ago
    Rabbit is very commonplace where I live, but I haven't tried it, it just looks to much like a rodent.
    • dingdongditchme 25 minutes ago
      I have tried it in a French restaurant and it was delicious. Just don't think about how cute it would have been to cuddle instead. :-(
    • vargr616 47 minutes ago
      i have a very specific recipe passed down in my family, i boil in a mix of water and vinegar for about 20-25 minutes, before roasting it in the oven with potatoes and garlic. That way the specific taste and especially the smell is brought down, but it's otherwise very tasty.

      This also works for goat or sheep meat.

  • pvaldes 27 minutes ago
    The European rabbit seems to be in fact two different species. In 2026 it was proposed to split it in Iberian rabbit from West Spain and Portugal, and European rabbit from East Spain and the rest of Europe. Both were isolated in the glaciation in opposite coins of Spain and the split is supported by genetic analysis and Iberian has a darker fur. They had barely interbred since 2 million years ago.

    So we know now that moving European rabbits for hunting purposes to Portugal, Malaga or Galicia may be a menace for Iberian Rabbit.

    USA has the cotton tail rabbits on genus Sylvilagus that was the original carrier of Myxomathosis virus. They live in swamps and forests.

    Rabbit is more "lamb" than "chicken" but none of both. It does not have a strong flavor really. Is a common dish in the Mediterranean and is tasty. Its main problems are the splinter bones that can damage a tooth, and its unappealing look in the butcher shop.

    Guinea pig should be similar. More fatty maybe. Very popular in South America, but I never ate those.

  • ErroneousBosh 24 minutes ago
    This sounds like absolute horseshit to me.

    You're trying to say that rabbits - which breed so rapidly that we actually use the phrase "breeds like rabbits" in just about every language across the planet - were somehow a rare luxury?

    Rabbits, that left unchecked will breed like crazy across any grassy-ish space that you have and which can be caught with only slightly more difficulty than for example rocks and fallen branches?

    These were a rare luxury, somehow?

    Bollocks they were.

    • defrost 13 minutes ago
      You realise that rabbits were once so rare in Australia they had to be introduced to salve the British passion for killing small things?

      The article claims:

        The European rabbit is a common sight in the British countryside today.
        Yet it was not always so. They are not native to the British Isles and are one of the most devastating invasive species.
      
      If true, there was a time when they were so rare as to be non existent.

      From that time, until at most 1555 when:

        ... the Swiss naturalist Conrad Gesner could write that "there are few countries wherein coneys (rabbits) do not breed, but the most plenty of all is in England."
      
      there was an interstitial period of decreasing rarity.
  • ViktorRay 35 minutes ago
    There’s a paywall to the link within the article about the 1363 law regarding clothing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_Concerning_Diet_and_Ap...

    Above is a Wikipedia article about that law. And here is a direct link to the text of that 1363 law:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000017915496&seq=...