I built a drone with only one motor [video]

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149 points | by hakonjdjohnsen 11 hours ago

12 comments

  • nadermx 21 minutes ago
    This is well worth the entire watch. It feels like what would any hacker do in trying to figure out how to make something they want to exist. Also very well presented and good pace.

    Inspires me to try and start doing some robotics.

  • TGower 1 hour ago
    Underactuated robotics are so cool. In the hobby BattleBots community, there is a design where the whole robot only has a single motor, but it's able to move in any direction and damage the opponent, all just by controlling the single motor's speed.

    Most robots have at least three motors, two drive sides and a weapon motor. The trick to getting away with one is integrating an impactor into the chassis of your bot, using the single wheel to spin up to ~3k RPM, then by tracking the rotation angle of the bot as it spins, you speed up a little while the wheel is pointing where you want to go, and slow it down a little when it's pointing the other direction.

    • Onavo 48 minutes ago
      Well not just battlebots, real life 6th gen fighters now all lack the vertical stabilizer so they have to rely on very sensitive real-time software control of the elevator/spoilerons to do banks and yaws. Not sure if it counts as under-actuated but they are tremendously difficult to steer without computer control.
      • jmaw 29 minutes ago
        I'm not super familiar with heavy equipment like dozers and such, but some of them may also have a single motor to pressurize hydraulic fluid and valves to articulate the various pistons. So may be able to make the argument there too
        • bluGill 17 minutes ago
          That is common and you can't run two different cylinders at the same time. Depends on how the pump and valves are plumbed of course. Sometimes you can run more than one but you split power.
          • HPsquared 1 minute ago
            That sounds like it could be solved with more valves.
        • nomel 17 minutes ago
          In that case, the valves/pistons pairs are all independent actuators. The hydraulic motor is more a constant power source for all of them.
      • KolmogorovComp 20 minutes ago
        > but they are tremendously difficult to steer without computer control.

        they are not humanly pilotable without computers. they are inherently unstable.

  • leoedin 9 hours ago
    A really neat concept. It uses a special hinge design, a magnetic encoder and torque modulation to control the lift of the rotor as it spins. Completely negates the need for a conventional helicopter's swash plate.

    The single motor does have the pretty major downside that it spins the moment it's in the air. I suspect a 2 motor drone with a tail motor would be a lot more practical. But I really like how mechanically simple the rotor hinge design is - it pushes all the complexity into the control algorithm.

  • subprotocol 1 hour ago
    Reminded me of the Manhack: https://half-life.fandom.com/wiki/Manhack
  • mogili 47 minutes ago
    It's a pretty cool concept, however, fails to mention coaxial rotor design that has a single motor and has much simpler control systems. I am also curious on how this affects frame vibration.

    This is a newer trend in mechanical design that leverages more complex control software to overcome mechanical issues. A good example is https://turntide.com/

    • nomel 10 minutes ago
      If I understand correctly, those are single rotor but NOT single motor. This is a single motor design, which is why it's neat. There are no additional control servos/motors.
    • stbtrax 20 minutes ago
      It’s an entertainmening YouTube video not a phd thesis. Bizzare standard to hold him to
  • jcims 40 minutes ago
    Side note, I used those same moteus controllers for a decidedly less energetic use case (two axis gimbal for RF satellite tracking) and found them to be super high quality and the lead developer always super helpful. Been a few years but def worth a look if you want to get into motor control.
  • sastra 30 minutes ago
    The Picocolissimo also uses only one motor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE47bcCxT_I
  • johnnyApplePRNG 6 minutes ago
    I am torn about drone tech now.

    I used to be super stoked about it.

    But watching drones kill civilians kind of ruined it. [0]

    Then again ... they do put a dent in superpowers powers apparently so ... like I said ... I am torn.

    [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/czdmrm6y7r0o

  • tintor 41 minutes ago
    How will this new tech affect the current drone war between Russia and Ukraine?

    Smaller, cheaper, more numerous offensive drones?

    • eimrine 11 minutes ago
      maybe new breakthroughs for the darpa project. kamikazes drones do not need so advanced prop tbh it is against the idea of being cheap.
  • mainecoder 8 hours ago
    Amazing work this is really innovative and it could be applied to a larger drones provided that the margin of error is reduced.
  • walrus01 17 minutes ago
    There's also been a few people building monocopters with a fixed, non tilting motor and prop, and four servo motor actuated fins at the bottom that can be used for thrust vectoring and to counter rotational forces.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2cETOyuJ20

    • gspr 8 minutes ago
      I love this angle so much! Do you know if there's been more detailed analysis of performance?
  • russellbeattie 1 hour ago
    It's incredible that changes in velocity still work to adjust the angle of the blades even at the insane speeds they're moving at. I would never have thought that was possible.

    I have to wonder why this guy didn't give his drone a leash while testing so it couldn't go flying off. It's the first thing that popped into my head, so I'm sure it's something he thought of as well and didn't use for a good reason. Maybe a string would get caught in the blades?

    • z3ugma 29 minutes ago
      Possibly the fact that the TPU fin body doesn't stop all counterrotation so the leash would get twisted into a cord and interfere with flight?